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. >> i happen to subscribe to ronald reagan's maxim that peace comes through strength. i want to have a military that's so strong no one wants to test it. you see, you want to -- >> president obama and mitt romney both making their case to veterans in virginia today. the president talking about ending our trillion-dollar wars, at least eventually, and his opponent talking about ronald reagan. joining us now, john stanton, washington bureau chief at "buzz feed" and it's been way too long since we've had you on show. congratulations on your move,vy way, how is "buzz feed"? >> it's awe? >> one of the things you did around the convention is you greyhound bused down there, and sort of went out of your way to talk to regular on the street folks who were not necessarily getting, having their opinions plundered by pundits. when you're doing sort of "man on the street" talking to people about politics, do people ever talk about the wars? >> they do. talking, particularly, i was in savannah and talking to church people that were feeding the working poor and homeless people. there
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reagan do. we balanced the budget. we reduced taxes and reduced marginal rights on taxes. we have a our regulatory environment under control but they are not duplicative. those are the things we need to get america moving again. that is what romney talks about. when sigh him do that, i feel pretty good about because i think he is on the right path. you may not hear it through the mega phone of national media and he should do it more. >> paul: i paid attention to your race in 2010. you ran against a candidate ted strickland very much like the president is, tried to associate with you wall street and big banks. you beat him. how can mitt romney beat a campaign like that in ohio? >> he's got to be here paul. he was in high hometown not long ago. he had an overflow crowd that was amazing. i've been around a lot of national campaigns. when you are out with him. you see the enthusiasm. look the most important thing for candidate running for president is to get people to understand that he understands
reagan do. we balanced the budget. we reduced taxes and reduced marginal rights on taxes. we have a our regulatory environment under control but they are not duplicative. those are the things we need to get america moving again. that is what romney talks about. when sigh him do that, i feel pretty good about because i think he is on the right path. you may not hear it through the mega phone of national media and he should do it more. >> paul: i paid attention to your race in 2010. you ran...
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reagan. joining us now, john stanton, washington bureau chief at "buzz feed" and it's been way too long since we've had you on show. congtulations on yr moy s "buzz feed"? >> it's awe? >> one of the things you did around the convention is you greyhound bused down there, and sort of went out of your way to talk to regular on the street folks who were not necessarily und pus. hg eir inio when you're doing sort of "man on the street" talking to people about politics, do people ever talk about the wars? >> they do. talking, particularly, i was in savannah and talking to church people that re feeding the oprking poor andomel there.f van some of the people i talked to on the bus were veterans. they feel like their plight as the working poor in this country, no one is really talking about the wars anymore. president obama talks about it, sort of generally, his accomplishments, but he doesn't talk about so much going forrd and what's going to happen. i think a lot of people have become fatigued with
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successful pattern to follow, ronald reagan's. on the other hand, you had the debt limit talks in 2011 where president obama in the middle of talks never, until this day, has gotten specific. we don't know if he offered to raise the medicare retirement age. we don't know how much he said he would cut medicare and enact entitlement reform. so he did the opposite. he went into a serious negotiation not as a candidate but as the president and never got specific. it's one of the reasons we never got a big debt limit deal. so i think mitt romney actually is following the reagan pattern. the question is who when it comes to real negotiation with congress will follow through and get it done. i think mitt romney would be stronger at that. the president, if he could have done it, would have done it. >> secretary reish -- >> let me -- with due respect, with due respect to mr. fleischer, the fact is when ronald reagan was running we didn't have the kind of budget deficit we have right now. it's very -- >> that's not the point. >> you cannot
successful pattern to follow, ronald reagan's. on the other hand, you had the debt limit talks in 2011 where president obama in the middle of talks never, until this day, has gotten specific. we don't know if he offered to raise the medicare retirement age. we don't know how much he said he would cut medicare and enact entitlement reform. so he did the opposite. he went into a serious negotiation not as a candidate but as the president and never got specific. it's one of the reasons we never...
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but the thing he has to do is what ronald reagan did. ronald reagan in the 1980 debates pinned the economy on jimmy carter, and he kept litigating the case that jimmy carter had made every american's life worse. because of his failed economic policies. governor romney has to do exactly the same thing. he has to make the debate about the president's failed policies on the economy and convince voters that it was those policies that's made their lives a lot worse over these last four years rather than let the president blame earthquakes or the, you know, president bush or the tsunami or anything. jenna: i have some questions about style versus substance, big questions about likability. we're going to take a quick commercial break and be right back with you for some more tips on debating, right after this. h. but things are starting to turn around because of business people like you. and regions is here to help. with the experience and service to keep things rolling. from business loans to cash management, we want to be your partner moving f
but the thing he has to do is what ronald reagan did. ronald reagan in the 1980 debates pinned the economy on jimmy carter, and he kept litigating the case that jimmy carter had made every american's life worse. because of his failed economic policies. governor romney has to do exactly the same thing. he has to make the debate about the president's failed policies on the economy and convince voters that it was those policies that's made their lives a lot worse over these last four years rather...
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remember, that was his great act, and ronald reagan before him did the same thing. bill clinton, lord knows, that's what it was all about with that guy. and this guy, i mean, can't do it at all. by the way, that's also the magic of the tea party movement. >> can't you imagine having some caviar with mitt romney? bellinis? >> with special spoons you have to eat it with. it can't be silver. it's got to be whatever it is. i'm sure mitt romney can tell you all about it. he just can't switch it on. not only that, this is the republican party and conservatism generally has been coasting on this notion, this sort of populist aura that hoverses around them and he's the opposite, you know. he's -- i was reading this great story in "rolling stone" the other day by matt taibbi about how mitt romney is like all of the terrible movie villains of the last 30 years. you know, he's the rich fraternity boy that's such a snob to the guys in animal house, right? you go down the list of movie villains and this is the kind of guy. perfectly, well coifed executives who fire everybody. >>
remember, that was his great act, and ronald reagan before him did the same thing. bill clinton, lord knows, that's what it was all about with that guy. and this guy, i mean, can't do it at all. by the way, that's also the magic of the tea party movement. >> can't you imagine having some caviar with mitt romney? bellinis? >> with special spoons you have to eat it with. it can't be silver. it's got to be whatever it is. i'm sure mitt romney can tell you all about it. he just can't...
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ronald reagan, can he stand on the stage with president carter? will he seem presidential? we sometimes forget that president obama is the president. he'll be sharing that space. in many ways, that's the biggest and first calculation that people make. they will say, could he, governor romney, that is, have that role or not. >> and does he belong on that stage in the first place and then does he look presidential? and you're right, because ronald reagan was an actor in many people's minds, even though he was governor of california. and then they were stunned when he walked on that stage and said, i agree with most of reagan's policies but he seemed presidential. >> right. and he didn't stumble and then he was calm. he felt -- he felt like he deserved to be there. i think one of the things that governor romney has to do is not only share that he deserves to be there but that he has some substan, more than people realize. >> substantial and national review reports that romney's team thinks it's critical that romney endure himself to the american people in this debate. they say
ronald reagan, can he stand on the stage with president carter? will he seem presidential? we sometimes forget that president obama is the president. he'll be sharing that space. in many ways, that's the biggest and first calculation that people make. they will say, could he, governor romney, that is, have that role or not. >> and does he belong on that stage in the first place and then does he look presidential? and you're right, because ronald reagan was an actor in many people's minds,...
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reagan and i knew ronald reagan. i mean, you know, it's absolutely crazy. today we're going to have an nfl football game. can you imagine the opposing team giving the other team the playbook? i mean, he doesn't have that many plays in the book to begin with and now here your advisers are, in essence, giving the obama administration -- giving the obama debate team the play that they are going to run as if this president isn't going to be prepared to counter anything. i don't know what kind of campaign they are running and the last thing i would do is publicize my strategy in the first debate. >> i think you're right. >> the only thing i think more alarming about publishing your strategy before the debate is that they are going at what has been a weak point of mr. romney. i mean, just this week he's had to defend himself against accusation that he's been fast and loose with facts. look at this. >> we've been absolutely spot on and any time there's been anything amiss, we correct it or remove it. >> so the fact that the
reagan and i knew ronald reagan. i mean, you know, it's absolutely crazy. today we're going to have an nfl football game. can you imagine the opposing team giving the other team the playbook? i mean, he doesn't have that many plays in the book to begin with and now here your advisers are, in essence, giving the obama administration -- giving the obama debate team the play that they are going to run as if this president isn't going to be prepared to counter anything. i don't know what kind of...
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the government decided under ronald reagan at first, give them a tax credit. in other words, send them a tax -- >> incentivize them to work. >> ryan knows this but he's just pandering to the worst instincts of his audience. >> martin, i don't know how -- or what goes through someone like -- the head of someone like paul ryan where he isn't going to accept the framework of that proposition, which has been so damaging. really a sensible candidate wouldn't try and accept the premise of the question. he'd try and explain it. he'd say, this is where we want to move the country. not about work, but it's been so damaging to sort of accept it and engage in it and embrace it, it is such a losing proposition. even the research from his own campaign must tell him that. >> john, you have previously remarked to me on the fact you regard paul ryan as a smart man. a man that understands numbers. that 47% tape has been out there for almost three weeks and he's making that kind of comment yesterday. is he really that smart? >> well, he's very smart on the budget numbers, but h
the government decided under ronald reagan at first, give them a tax credit. in other words, send them a tax -- >> incentivize them to work. >> ryan knows this but he's just pandering to the worst instincts of his audience. >> martin, i don't know how -- or what goes through someone like -- the head of someone like paul ryan where he isn't going to accept the framework of that proposition, which has been so damaging. really a sensible candidate wouldn't try and accept the...
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ronald reagan, they said he didn't pay attention to details. he had the big things right. now that we have gone back, read diaries and letters, we know he did a lot of that work himself, didn't delegate to staff. it was the big ideas. he let staff handle the details. also, you have to be able to manage people. to some extent one of the criticisms i have of president obama is that he has turned too much over to other people and doesn't work well with congress. you need to work well together. >> let me ask you about the relationship with senator mccain. i asked it of senator hutchinson. is it a blessing or curse to have the president or nominee be from your home state. >> john and i represent the same constituency, he will be elected to senate, i will be gone before he will. he is my colleague this entire time. larger than life in many respects. that has its plus and minuses, he is playing the national issues, i am doing a lot of things that relate to the state. he is very good when he focuses on a state issue. he can be effective working on a state issue as well. we have be
ronald reagan, they said he didn't pay attention to details. he had the big things right. now that we have gone back, read diaries and letters, we know he did a lot of that work himself, didn't delegate to staff. it was the big ideas. he let staff handle the details. also, you have to be able to manage people. to some extent one of the criticisms i have of president obama is that he has turned too much over to other people and doesn't work well with congress. you need to work well together....
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bush or ronald reagan or bill clinton? do they approached these debates differently or do the american people view it differently when you have a sitting president? >> i think so, yes. one of the things that happens is the incumbent is at somewhat of a disadvantage being placed on an equal footing as the challenger, as we talked about before. incumbents have typically had a very rough time in the first debate. i am thinking back to jimmy carter in 1980. ronald reagan in 1984. george h. w. bush in '92. all of these guys who had been in the presidency, they got on that debate stage and came face- to-face with the challenger. it is rattling. they all had a very difficult time getting through the first debate. in each case, they had to up their game as the series went forward. >> you say, "the morning after >> you say, "the morning after the debate, will the media the
bush or ronald reagan or bill clinton? do they approached these debates differently or do the american people view it differently when you have a sitting president? >> i think so, yes. one of the things that happens is the incumbent is at somewhat of a disadvantage being placed on an equal footing as the challenger, as we talked about before. incumbents have typically had a very rough time in the first debate. i am thinking back to jimmy carter in 1980. ronald reagan in 1984. george h. w....
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reagan. but it's notable that he's even trying in a campaign that's been unwilling and unable to engage america in the larger world. he's finally trying to dit. in terms of what they're going to do, on even just say the issue of war we're in right now, they have really been unwilling to engage. fi , usly mr. s they'll start. romney didn't mention the war in afghanistan at all. he explained in speeches like that you don't go through a laundry list. you go through things that are important. the war wasn't important to him. but it's not just specifically afghanistan. yo itmney her o. website right now and you type the word drones into the search box on the website because you want to know his position. you will find three results. three. one result is mr. romney criticizing mr. obama after a drone crashed in iran. enre py r cricizing the obama administration for talking about drones to news outlets like "the new york times" and you have one for killing osama bin laden. if you want to know what h
reagan. but it's notable that he's even trying in a campaign that's been unwilling and unable to engage america in the larger world. he's finally trying to dit. in terms of what they're going to do, on even just say the issue of war we're in right now, they have really been unwilling to engage. fi , usly mr. s they'll start. romney didn't mention the war in afghanistan at all. he explained in speeches like that you don't go through a laundry list. you go through things that are important. the...
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stuart: you can attack with a smile on your face. >> ronald reagan could do that. >> he is no ronald reagan. stuart: that's a line i've heard before. >> sees no jack kennedy there. was he one of your gas? stuart: you can go after someone in a pleasant fashion and make it stick. >> i don't see him doing that. it's a real challenge. he's right to say that. >> what happens in the last 40 minutes of the debate when they are exhausted? >> that's a good question. i think you know this new video which i gather may not be brought out, not the type to bring of this video, something that i think that romney ought to consider. i know it's the third rail of american politics, talking about race, but this video is such a damning indictment of this president in terms of his race hitting what he claims to the been wanting to bring us all together. i wonder if from the could use this in some way. stuart: and not sure of the of the stay up until the end of it. always a pleasure. thank you very much. now, i'm calling it the most discriminated against class of people, nothing to do with race or religio
stuart: you can attack with a smile on your face. >> ronald reagan could do that. >> he is no ronald reagan. stuart: that's a line i've heard before. >> sees no jack kennedy there. was he one of your gas? stuart: you can go after someone in a pleasant fashion and make it stick. >> i don't see him doing that. it's a real challenge. he's right to say that. >> what happens in the last 40 minutes of the debate when they are exhausted? >> that's a good question. i...
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of ronald reagan because so many democrats didn't like him or whatever. well senator obama then took the punches, explained what he said about reagan and took it back to her, keeping the anger under control, finding balance and pushing back hard just not too hard. >> it was interesting too as well you could ask the most dry mundane question, dealing with the economy. they would go back to the talking points in the attacks. it was clear they were trying to score points. fireworks. a "game change"er if you will. i want you to see here's mitt romney in a scenario that played out in the debates, the primaries with rick perry in las vegas. >> i'm speaking. i'm speaking. >> you get 30 seconds. this is the way the rules work here. in get 60 seconds and then you get 30 donds respond. anderson -- >> you say -- you knew. >> would you please wait? are you just going keep talking? let me finish what i have to say. >> all right. there's always that opportunity really when somebody gets in the other's skin and you lose control of the debate and he yearly lost control o
of ronald reagan because so many democrats didn't like him or whatever. well senator obama then took the punches, explained what he said about reagan and took it back to her, keeping the anger under control, finding balance and pushing back hard just not too hard. >> it was interesting too as well you could ask the most dry mundane question, dealing with the economy. they would go back to the talking points in the attacks. it was clear they were trying to score points. fireworks. a...
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chris: the second time a debate turned things around was ronald reagan's direct appeal to voters in his first and only faceoff with president jimmy carter. >> are you better off than you were four years ago? is it easier for you to go and buy things in the stores than it was four years ago? do you feel that our security is as safe? that we're as strong as we were four years ago? chris: after that, the next day's "new york times" told the story of how critical that became. the are you better off question took hold. the third time a debate turned the race around was this first debate between vice president al gore and george w. bush. the vice president hurt himself with his notorious sighs. [sighing] chris: and then in the third debate, this exchange was a killer for gore. >> the difference is that i can get it done. that i can get something positive done on behalf of the people. that's what the question in this campaign is about. it's not only what your philosophy and what's your position on issues, but can you get things done? [laughter] and i believe i can. >> what about the norwood bi
chris: the second time a debate turned things around was ronald reagan's direct appeal to voters in his first and only faceoff with president jimmy carter. >> are you better off than you were four years ago? is it easier for you to go and buy things in the stores than it was four years ago? do you feel that our security is as safe? that we're as strong as we were four years ago? chris: after that, the next day's "new york times" told the story of how critical that became. the...
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milt romney evoking ronald reagan. now "newsweek" i voted the -- david free lander, "newsweek's" political correspondent will take us who made the illustrious -- >> a progress sorry at yale surveyed ten of the most eminent presidential and imminent histo historians. >> also tight eisenhower, he helped create the middle class up to world war ii. it was really a matter of him ushering in the matter of prosperity. building the -- he had this air of prosperity in the 1950s. >> wasn't this build as an escape route for the atomic bomb? >> many, many politicians revere ronald reagan. they have admired that. along with many americans, what do you think is behind his popularity, ultimately? he was the president during a time of broadly shared prosperity in the 190s and he helped to usher in that prosperity. and as our story points out, he was a great communicator. >> also on the list, bill clinton, he made that big old splash in the dnc. why was his presidency such a success? >> i think it was him helping the democratic party.
milt romney evoking ronald reagan. now "newsweek" i voted the -- david free lander, "newsweek's" political correspondent will take us who made the illustrious -- >> a progress sorry at yale surveyed ten of the most eminent presidential and imminent histo historians. >> also tight eisenhower, he helped create the middle class up to world war ii. it was really a matter of him ushering in the matter of prosperity. building the -- he had this air of prosperity in the...
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when ronald reagan said, there you go again, it was completely natural to him. as you know, chris, carter was right, he had opposed medicare at the start, but when reagan said, there you go again, it actually sort of discounted everything else that carter had said in that debate. so they've got to be organic, they've got to be natural, they've got to be real. i think everybody at least in the political class who has seen this report is going to be watching the debate to see if we can sort of tick off, oh, that was the prepared zinger. did he bring it off? >> oh, yeah. >> the other thing is he's not very good at this. i mean, you know, i know they don't want him to be spontaneous because he'll say the wrong thing, but delivering a prepared funny line seems to me to be one of the hardest tasks, probably even harder than telling us what's in his tax plan. >> as a journalist, joan, i want your view. suppose you're watching the debate, as we all will be, everybody is going to be watching wednesday night, and you see what is obviously a prefab zinger that doesn't even
when ronald reagan said, there you go again, it was completely natural to him. as you know, chris, carter was right, he had opposed medicare at the start, but when reagan said, there you go again, it actually sort of discounted everything else that carter had said in that debate. so they've got to be organic, they've got to be natural, they've got to be real. i think everybody at least in the political class who has seen this report is going to be watching the debate to see if we can sort of...
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it did not help when ronald reagan --eagamicsas presumed to create a lot of wealth for the middle class? no. the median wage began to stagnate. trickle down economics is a complete fraud. >> to professor reich's point, he says he thinks that perception is getting thrgh to thelectate. "washingtopost w tio nehese live and they interviewed voters there, and the thing that kept coming up for voters is romney is for th millionaires. people are getting that message. they're understanding at a basic level what the professors saying there. the thinghat's so strange to , wead ts d ie coy,e had this idea, we'll have unrestrained capitalism, which generally leads to these sorts of concentrations of wealth that we've seen, but on the other hand we'll have bigger profits and wean better take care of the people who are lling behind. well, now that we have the ntcuttet net.capitalism, ty the ryan budget, 62% of the cuts from programs that benefit the poor. so you're having this huge accumulation of wealth and then you're cutting the bottom out from under from the people who are really struggling. >> a
it did not help when ronald reagan --eagamicsas presumed to create a lot of wealth for the middle class? no. the median wage began to stagnate. trickle down economics is a complete fraud. >> to professor reich's point, he says he thinks that perception is getting thrgh to thelectate. "washingtopost w tio nehese live and they interviewed voters there, and the thing that kept coming up for voters is romney is for th millionaires. people are getting that message. they're understanding...
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. >> it's an update of the ronald reagan welfare mean, same racialized politics mitt romney has been playing for the last eight, ten months. this is the -- the welfare requirement, the idea the president is abolishing it, he is taking a gop prescription for reforming welfare and putting it in place, which is giving more power to the states. you know, the details of that, the fact that tons of things the president has embraced are actually rooted in conservative ideology has been a completely lost or disavowed by the republican party. i mean, they -- mitt romney has to win 60% of white voters and will stop at nothing to shore up every white vote he can. and that includes playing to the lowest card in the deck, which is incredibly racially charged, incendiary rhetoric designed to stoke hatred and fulmen, i guess, enthusiasm to get folks out to the polls. >> gene, look at this. every time i see this, i see it infrequently, i cry. i've been accused of being too emotional about politics. four years ago, john mccain stood up to a supporter who called then-senator obama an arab. here's his
. >> it's an update of the ronald reagan welfare mean, same racialized politics mitt romney has been playing for the last eight, ten months. this is the -- the welfare requirement, the idea the president is abolishing it, he is taking a gop prescription for reforming welfare and putting it in place, which is giving more power to the states. you know, the details of that, the fact that tons of things the president has embraced are actually rooted in conservative ideology has been a...
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ironically president obama seized on that reagan initiative to interpret it as a sign ronald reagan was for hiking taxes on rich. he wasn't. he was for closing look holes that prevent americans from paying. mitt romney's pitch seems to be, look i think everyone should contribute something and the push for fair, simpler tax code, get rid of a lot of these deductions, limit a lot of these deductionses. drop a lot of credits. nix some of the special louances. it will be cleaner and easier to understand and do. you might chase income hiding under the rocks back as taxable revenue. all benefit. but of course i think a lot of upper middle class, upper class folks heard that and said, whoa, sparky, i think you just raised my taxes. so he is going to have to answer to that tonight. but i think he is hoping to win over people who heretofore thought he was just a pal to the rich. jenna: i've been looking for extra income hiding under the rocks. i have yet to find it anywhere, neil. >> there you go. jenna: tonight, 8:00 p.m. eastern time for fbn and your coverage there. we'll look forward to that,
ironically president obama seized on that reagan initiative to interpret it as a sign ronald reagan was for hiking taxes on rich. he wasn't. he was for closing look holes that prevent americans from paying. mitt romney's pitch seems to be, look i think everyone should contribute something and the push for fair, simpler tax code, get rid of a lot of these deductions, limit a lot of these deductionses. drop a lot of credits. nix some of the special louances. it will be cleaner and easier to...
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bush or ronald reagan or bill clinton? do they approached these debates differently or do the american people view it differently when you have a sitting president? >> i think so, yes. one of the things that happens is the incumbent is at somewhat of a disadvantage being placed on an equal footing as the challenger, as we talked about before. incumbents have typically had a very rough time in the first debate. i am thinking back to jimmy carter in 1980. ronald reagan in 1984. george h. w. bush in '92. all of these guys who had been in the presidency, they got on that debate stage and came face-to-face with the challenger. it is rattling. they all had a very difficult time getting through the first debate. in each case, they had to up their game as the series went forward. >> you say, "the morning after the debate, will the media the talking about knockout punches? who knows? a little boldness might make good politics." what do you mean? >> i mean this idea of not approaching this debate as an awful obstacle you have to get
bush or ronald reagan or bill clinton? do they approached these debates differently or do the american people view it differently when you have a sitting president? >> i think so, yes. one of the things that happens is the incumbent is at somewhat of a disadvantage being placed on an equal footing as the challenger, as we talked about before. incumbents have typically had a very rough time in the first debate. i am thinking back to jimmy carter in 1980. ronald reagan in 1984. george h. w....